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Miki's avatar

I think the number of verifiable instances of deception in the pit of iatrogenesis known as "trans" "medicine" must be in the millions by now. Here are just a few of dozens of categories of deceptive practice; sins of both omission and commission:

1. Failing to convey to the "patient" and all related parties that procedures will render a person INORGASMIC FOR LIFE. What kind of human walks someone else down the hall to *get* such a procedure, much less performs it? Monstrous beyond belief.

2. Playing along with patients' delusions that they can change sex, and presenting these procedures as a way of doing that. Think of the children who, AFTER PROCEDURES, said things like *"When will I grow a (insert impossible opposite-sex organ here)?"* or *"I can't wait 'till I have a baby!"* (No chance of that, little man.)

3. Failing to disclose the high likelihood of life itself being truncated by decades due to all the fallout connected with wrong-sex hormones, not least the cardiac and cognitive kind.

4. Failing to disclose the all-too-robust chance of a patient's extremely early exit via sepsis, necrosis, etc.

5. Representing the stuff they sew onto/into bodies as being in any way real or functioning primary or secondary sex organs. Gluing Mr. Potato Head parts to your face would be more functional and safer.

6. Brandishing pills, poisons and knives to "change" or "traverse" something that isn't physical. "Gender" is feelings about oneself based on varying sets of sex stereotypes. You can change gender twenty times a day if you like, two hundred! And you can do it while keeping your body intact!

7. Calling the destruction of healthy and functioning organs and systems "care."

8. Denying irreversibility. Remember the girl who begged to get her breasts back?

Sweet Caroline's avatar

Love this. Especially ‘calling the destruction of healthy body parts care.’ So sick and twisted yet people, globally, have allowed themselves to be manipulated into believing without question. No one who designed this horrific human experiment will be punished.

KPL's avatar

Cori’s comment in the introduction- “what I am is a man who underwent medicalization for no good reason!”-so delightfully on point I had to pause and comment. Such a fan of the pod & Cori!

JennyBerus's avatar

I’m close to Lisa’s age and very much relate to the estrangement from liberal institutions. It feels lonely and sad. Thank you so much for your articulate bravery. This podcast really helps and thank you all for the work that you do.

El Diablo's avatar

I'm a little bitter that I didn't make it to 40 before I got mugged by reality...

EvieU's avatar

MIT…those kids. So lost, clinging to the false narrative of trans genocide. But I don’t blame them. I’m only angry at the adults who planted this seed years ago (mainstreaming queer, medicalizing gender nonconformity, etc.), and then that same Left elite pulled the rug out from under them during Covid.

We’re waiting here with open arms for any of these young protesters who want to join the real fight against homophobia. (I still have love for you in spite of the personal attacks). And that goes for the older Millennials, Gen X and Boomers too: if you want to come back to the righteous fight, we’ll be here.

Syl's avatar

On the gardening note, it has been cold, cloudy, and damp here for the past week, so I’ve been worried about my basil, which I probably planted too early. I made little “greenhouses” for them in an attempt to keep them warm, which have held up surprisingly well. Tonight’s supposed to be the last cold night for a while, so I’m hoping once the sun comes out and it gets warm out, that will revive them somewhat.

My mini greenhouse technique: I stuck four chopsticks in the ground around each seedling as posts. Then, I cut a small hole through both sides of the corner of freezer bags, and slid that down around the posts, and tucked straw around the bottom to keep out drafts. The typical advice is to use an empty milk jug as a cloche, but I didn’t have any of those, so this is what I was able to come up with using objects I had around my house.

dialectical lesbian's avatar

Fucking love tiramisu

Corinna Cohn's avatar

Dessert passion ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

J Chicago's avatar

Lisa, I think you were quoting the **proposed** 2016 CMS decision memo.

It was softened in the final one.

here is the proposed one: https://www.cms.gov/medicare-coverage-database/view/ncacal-decision-memo.aspx?proposed=Y&NCAId=282

here is the final one which has some statements about the earlier one talking about things that were too broad or something:

https://www.cms.gov/medicare-coverage-database/view/ncacal-decision-memo.aspx?proposed=N&NCAId=282

The proposed one has a lot more discussion of adverse outcomes, e.g. the part you quoted:

"The results were inconsistent, but negative in the best studies, i.e., those that reduced confounding by testing patients prior to and after surgery and which used psychometric tests with some established validation in other large populations. (Atkins et al., 2004; Balshem et al., 2011; Chan, Altman, 2005; Deeks et al., 2003; Guyatt et al., 2008a-c; 2011a-e; Kunz, Oxman,1998; Kunz et al., 2007 and 2011; Odgaard-Jensen et al., 2011)."

[Also, by the way, who wrote it? I didn't see any authors....maybe I missed it. ]

Julia Mason MD's avatar

Oh noze! A government document has anonymous authors?!? Alert the press!

Ruth's avatar

Cori- I think your point about there being no “meaning-making” for the current cohort of young people is spot-on. As a Gen X’er, I’m left to contemplate what that task looked like for me in the 1980s. Thanks to all of you for another excellent episode.

J Chicago's avatar

It's deceptive if it is called medicine, where likely benefits are expected to outweigh likely risks, isn't it? Some of the adverse outcomes are supposed to be benefits but the providers have no idea whether they will be considered beneficial by the patient beyond a transient honeymoon period (which might be a few years).

EvieU's avatar

I’ll do a Non-Gender comment for folks who are saddled with or enjoy yard work and gardening. Personally I like it. But this spring has been tough because we had a mast year with the oak trees, and 1,000 oak seedlings are growing in places they shouldn’t 😵‍💫. So I’m yanking those, and when they can’t be pulled out, I hit them with the weed wacker. Read “Nature’s Best Hope” by Doug Tallamy. Oaks are a main character in that book, hence why it’s on my mind. Anyways, I promise you will never look at a single plant the same way again after you read it. 🌱 🌲 🌳 🌼 🍁 🍃

KateP's avatar

We now have Marty Makary and Vinay Prasad at the FDA, who (with their new podcast "FDA Direct") are taking an approach of transparency and open dialogue, and are both champions of evidence-based medicine. Prasad especially was a leading voice during the pandemic for the interests and protection of children. I have been wondering when he would finally start speaking up on this issue, and why he hasn't so far. Maybe this is a third rail even more toxic than opposing the school closures. But I think now, in his leading role at the FDA as director of CBER, is the time for him to step up on this. Maybe you guys should contact him and Makary. To start, they should at least dedicate one of their FDA Direct episodes to a discussion of these interventions.

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KateP's avatar

You're right, I forgot about that (I do subscribe to Sensible Medicine). But Prasad has otherwise been silent on this, when it should be right up his alley with the poor evidence base and the harming of children. I really hope that he will start speaking about it now that he is part of the regulatory agency that has some power over medical interventions (although I admit I don't know how much power the FDA has over off-label uses of medications), and will use his more official platform to try to make a difference.

v23325's avatar

I am very well versed in all the data but even still every once in a while I’ll hear something I’ve heard before and it will just strike me profoundly. So I just gotta say, fuck these doctors to fucking hell for memory holing the lives of these young people who were lost to suicide and promised to feel better after transition. I hope they choke.

Hazel-rah's avatar

Ms. Reed, congrats on your successful decoy work during the livestream, you got kicked out for a worthy cause 😀

I think you’re right that there will continue to be a whole lot of coding shenanigans by fanatical or merely determined cult/captured providers in order to get Medicaid reimbursement for continuing to damage these kids. Your perspective on insurance claim procedures is and will be invaluable. I bet you could get yourself hired as a Medicaid fraud investigator or at least consultant if you wanted.

Julia Mason MD's avatar

Jamie, we never heard the story of the protestors being confused by your anarchist tattoos. You were going to say that you came from the coffee shop and diverted into the transwoman who maybe transitioned from trauma (and the movie Psycho, etc etc, a pretty epic diversion).

Tulliola's avatar

Jamie’s comment about why she likes gardening - pulling up a weed and giving space for a flower or something to grow in its place and have more light and strength - applies just as well to her work advocating against gender affirming “care” for kids. They need flowers growing and flourishing in their minds and lives, not weeds.

Chalky Undertaste's avatar

My aunt had a prom for her 80th birthday. Everyone dressed up in 50's formal wear and her cousin's band played. So. Fun.

Julia Mason MD's avatar

I hope Lisa doesn't have to wait until #80!